Mortifying moment Mormon TikTok star Taylor Frankie Paul, 30, is forced to explain ‘soft swinging’ to The View’s Joy Behar, 81

The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives star Taylor Frankie Paul was forced to explain ‘soft swinging’ to Joy Behar and Chelsea Clinton on Thursday’s episode of The View.

The Mormon TikTok star, who shot to fame after being swept up in a swinging scandal, was pressed about the topic while promoting her new Hulu show.

While discussing the series, Behar, 81, grilled Paul, 30, about the incident.

‘In 2022 you created quite the scandal Miss Taylor, when you revealed that you and your husband were getting a divorce because you both had engaged in soft swinging with other couples,’ Behar said.

‘It’s the soft part that’s throwing me off. So what happened there? What is soft swinging, explain that.’

The Mormon TikTok star, who shot to fame after being swept up in a swinging scandal, was pressed about the topic while promoting her new Hulu show 

Paul awkwardly responded, ‘So swinging is where you switch partners, like swingers, right? So for us, we opened up our relationship, we were playing games and being intimate all in front of each other.

‘So we weren’t full-on switching per se. So that’s why they called it soft swinging.’

Clinton, who was a guest panelist that day, then chimed in to redirect the conversation to Paul’s co-star Mayci Neeley.

Paul’s marriage to then-husband Tate broke down in 2022 after she developed feelings and embarked on an affair with one of her swinging partners – who was also married to one of her friends.

At the time, Paul’s star was on the rise as part of a group of ‘MomTok’ influencers on TikTok. She and other glamorous Mormon moms often appeared in each other’s videos, creating dances and participating in viral trends with one another.

‘MomTok was involved, and then — I guess the public kind of thought everyone was swingers in MomTok,’ she told Fox News. ‘People were dissecting.’

And speaking on the Viall Files, Paul said there was never a specific conversation which led to the swinging. Instead, it started during a night of drinking in which her husband and another suggested she and a woman ‘make out… it’s hot.’

‘I’d done that in my younger years, it wasn’t a big deal to me… we threw another party and it was like, take off your clothes and we’ll do lingerie pictures together. It just escalated,’ she explained.

‘It’s the soft part that’s throwing me off. So what happened there? What is soft swinging, explain that,’ Behar asked 

‘We opened up our relationship, we were playing games and being intimate all in front of each other,’ Paul explained

Paul recalls the two couples would ‘have intercourse in the same bed… the girls kissing and the husbands touching the other wives.’

At this point, it was just she, her husband and another couple, but over time it expanded to include a third couple.

Paul said her then-husband was the first person to pull the pin, because he became concerned about one of the women falling pregnant and not knowing who the father was.

‘My husband is like, maybe we should stop doing this with our best friends and maybe we could do this with strangers… I wasn’t on board,’ she said.

In spite of the saga – and the retribution from Latter Day Saints who say there are ‘gross misrepresentations’ of the faith – Paul insists she has every right to still identify as Mormon.

‘I go to church, and my son is going to be blessed here soon. It’s really nobody’s place to tell me that I can’t go to church because I sin. It’s something between the church and me,’ she said.

Paul revealed in a 2022 livestream video that she and her then-husband, Tate, had agreed to have multiple partners as part of a ‘soft swinging’ group with other married Mormon couples, implicating some of the women who often featured in her videos.

Paul and her husband had an agreement they ‘wouldn’t go all the way’ with other partners, but she broke that agreement with one of the other husbands who she had developed feelings for, ultimately ending her marriage.

Paul’s marriage to then-husband Tate (pictured) broke down in 2022 after she developed feelings and embarked on an affair with one of her swinging partners 

The influencer is currently starring in Hulu’s The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives

Several of those women were adamant they weren’t involved and issued public statements, while others stayed silent and refused to comment at all. 

Several of the key players in the MomTok era have since claimed they were asked to appear on the Hulu show, but turned it down.

The friendship between several of the women and Paul disintegrated, and one of the women, Miranda McWhorter, said she didn’t want to appear on the show in an effort to avoid having to interact with Paul.

‘Yes we said we would consider it if she wasn’t on the show, and we did. We knew we weren’t going to find out in the foreseeable future, and we still made the decision, for our families and ourselves, because it didn’t feel like the right fit,’ she said.

At the time, it was unclear whether Paul could appear on the show as she was facing charges of aggravated assault, domestic violence in the presence of a child and child abuse.

She took a plea deal for the aggravated assault, and the other charges were dismissed with prejudice.

The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives premiered on Hulu on September 5.

It’s currently the streamer’s most-watched unscripted premiere of 2024, beating out the latest season of The Kardashians.